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Lloyd Evans, who is a former elder of the church, but left in part because of the way child abuse is handled, told Sky News: "It's in their own documents, in their shepherd book that they collate this information.
Lloyd tells Sky News he left the the church because of the way child abuse was handled by the Watchtower Society. In a video he posted, he tells the real reason why he attended his judicial meeting and why he left left the church.
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There are 8.6 million Jehovah's Witness members worldwide and 130,000 in England and Wales, with a large central office campus in Chelmsford, Essex.
Activists who are critics of the church claim there is a database of child sexual abuse allegations made against people in the organisation, which is kept at the head office in Chelmsford.
Lloyd Evans, who is a former elder of the church, but left in part because of the way child abuse is handled, told Sky News: "It's in their own documents, in their shepherd book that they collate this information.
"And it's in other documents that this information is received at the branch and turned into a database.
"It's beyond belief to me that the police haven't already tried to get those documents from Chelmsford."
The guidebook does indeed tell elders that if the wrong-doing "is not established… the investigating elders should compose a record, sign it, put it in a sealed envelope and give it to the secretary to be placed in the congregation's confidential file".
Mr Evans added: "If this was a gym franchise, or a public school and they were keeping records on teachers or gym instructors about these individuals being predators and not passing these on to the police - these institutions would be all over our front pages. When it's a religion doing it, for some reason everyone treats them with kid gloves."
Does Lloyd Evans ever tell the truth? Lloyd admitted on video that he was asked to attend his judicial committee meeting because of ''apostasy.'' Why did he tell this reporter that he left the Jehovah's Witness religion in part because of the way child abuse was being handled? Why was he making himself an expert on child sexual abuse, while admitting in his book that he was sexting females, while single and as a married man? What made him a child abuse expert, while writing in his book that he was sexually repressed and had an obsession with masturbation?
He wanted the police to investigate child abuse documents that were in a secret database in Chelmsford, and having the documents turned over to the police. He wanted to know why Jehovah Witness religion were being treated with kids gloves when it came to child sexual abuse, while he wants the XJW community and his followers to mind their own business while he visited prostitutes in Thailand ( which is human abuse)!
'brothers, we now have the xjw community on the ropes.
a scandal and infighting among the xjw community has given us new vigor against these ''mentally diseased apostates.
'' due to legal reasons, we will not name the person.
'Brothers, we now have the XJW community on the ropes. A scandal and infighting among the XJW community has given us new vigor against these ''mentally diseased apostates.'' Due to legal reasons, we will not name the person. This website publisher made a video showing brother Morris purchasing expensive liquor. Also, a LEGO video of this incident was shown. While the Lego video was quite amusing, that was the last blow! We have written a Watchtower article that will throw the XJW community into broken pieces. They will wish this article never came out. The writing committee is throwing this out. We will take a vote to see if this article should be printed!''
''The father of the lies,” uses those under his control ( the XJW community) to spread lies about Jehovah and about our brothers at the Watchtower Society. For instance, apostates publish lies and distort facts about Jehovah’s organization on websites and through television and other media. How should we respond if someone confronts us with such lies? We reject them! Why? Because we have faith in Jehovah and we trust our brothers. We will not allow curiosity to draw us into arguing with them.. In fact, apostates will all shoot themselves in the foot. We will let XJW community fight each other, in a battle they cannot win!
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How many exJW you-tubers has he done this to? Can anyone else see a pattern here?
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i was wondering if anyone is aware of the jw’s in general being involved financially and/or as volunteers in charity organizations?
i was a born in jw for 56 years and left in 2016. as far as i remember there was never any encouragement to help in the community in any way.
including soup kitchens, tutoring at schools, united way, etc.
The poor, the widows, the orphans, the sick and the hungry are out of luck at the local Kingdom Halls! Every dollar goes towards the local and worldwide work!
LIVING AS CHRISTIANS
How can we “come forward today with a gift in hand for Jehovah”? (1Ch 29:5, 9, 14) Below are various ways in which we can choose to make voluntary donations to support the work of Jehovah’s Witnesses, both locally and worldwide.
construction and operation of branch facilities and remote translation offices
theocratic schools
special full-time servants
disaster relief
printing, video production, and digital publishing
congregation expenses, such as utilities and basic maintenance of the Kingdom Hall
any resolutions made by the congregation to send funds to the branch office for:
Kingdom Hall and Assembly Hall construction worldwide
the Global Assistance Arrangement
other worldwide activities
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The comments I posted were from two of her loyal followers. I called her out on those two posts. I have fixed the post. THEY WERE NOT MY COMMENTS! SORRY IF YOU THOUGHT I MADE THOSE COMMENTS AND GAVE ME THE DISLIKE BUTTON.
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I started a thread :
Sister Pfister has deleted and blocked my comments on her video, where she blames the entire XJW community for causing all of Lloyd Evans problems. She claims that Lloyd has done great work, and that he is just a normal human being with faults just like everyone else. She states that she was also sexually abused and that her first husband cheated on her. She finds that all of Lloyd's problems are between him and his wife.
Here are two comments made by her loyalists. I called her on why the XJW community is unrelenting on why he needs to stop his ''so-called activism'' and go away. I commented that Lloyd took on child abuse cases against the Watchtower Society, while he is vacationing in Thailand admitting to using prostitutes.
i was wondering if anyone is aware of the jw’s in general being involved financially and/or as volunteers in charity organizations?
i was a born in jw for 56 years and left in 2016. as far as i remember there was never any encouragement to help in the community in any way.
including soup kitchens, tutoring at schools, united way, etc.
longgone
I was in for over 40 years. Not once were we asked to donate money for the homeless, never took time for a food drive, never volunteered at a soup kitchen, never helped rebuild homes or donate any money for families that had their homes destroyed by fire, never volunteered at hospitals or child services, never gave money to animal rescues, never helped domestic abuse victims and never donated or helped people with disabilities!
I no longer believe in the Bible, but the Watchtower Society ( who does ) never followed Jesus words when he said:
Instead this is the Watchtower Society motto:
talk about censorship!
i know there are many lloyd evans loyalists.
that's fine with me, but when you delete posts because you do not like the questions raised is what chinese censorship feels like.
She's a 'Pick me'. It drives me mad when these bleeding heart women won't hold the line.
Sister Pfister has a bleeding heart for Lloyd! She says, '' We're all damaged, all of us. And, Lloyd's statements about sexually repressed is absolutely 100% accurate. Now, I in no way excusing his actions, because obviously it was not something discussed with his wife, but it's a valid reason.''
Sister Pfister sends women's rights back to the late 1800's. She was sexually abused herself and was cheated on by her first husband. She understands that Jehovah's Witnesses are sexually repressed people by all the rules they live by. She understands why a man would use the services of a prostitute...but first he needs to discuss this with his wife!
Why do I say pushes himself in? That's what the other people at Icsa claim. He was an elder for less than a year and he wrote a biography - why does that make him some kind of damn expert?
Lloyd writes in his book that he developed a fixation with online cybersex while being single and while being married. He spent three months as an elder trying to correct the conduct of a fellow elder while having the same faults as himself. And from all this, he becomes an expert on child abuse cases against the Watchtower Society?
HERE ARE SOME READER REVIEWS ON HIS BOOK: THE RELUCTANT APOSTATE
The writer is quite brazen in discussing his repressed sexuality and personal frustrations with it prior to his marriage. On the surface this doesn’t necessarily present a problem, but this is where the writer’s inexperience in writing a book seeps through his veneer of confidence. Particularly cringe-inducing was the writer’s plentiful references to his self-pleasuring habits. This reaches its climax when describing his sexual frustration while attending MTS courses with a quite embarrassing conclusion.
First of all, I am shocked that the author’s wife Dijana (directly named in the book by Lloyd Evans) has to have her own husband’s infidelities broadcast and described in detail to complete strangers. In the book he had described going to the elders first to report these indiscretions as his wife’s idea, but my main thought when reading this was why put her through all this
This guy is a sick pervert. He has an obsession with masturbation and feels the need to document it in this book. I don't see how it is relevant and helpful. Please seek therapy.
The author gives ridiculous arguments for his points also. I will give one example and I am done: In the chapter on masterbation the author says that there is no direct condemnation on the behavior. I guess he forgot when Jesus said to look upon a woman to desire her has already violated the commandment against adultery.
talk about censorship!
i know there are many lloyd evans loyalists.
that's fine with me, but when you delete posts because you do not like the questions raised is what chinese censorship feels like.
Talk about censorship! I know there are many Lloyd Evans loyalists. That's fine with me, but when you delete posts because you do not like the questions raised is what Chinese censorship feels like. I posted three different times, and all three posts were deleted.
Someone posted: His sexual proclivities does NOT negate his excellent activism. ACTIVIVIISM IS HIS IMPORTANT WORK - SO PEOPLE SHOULD STOP DRIVING HIM AWAY FROM IT
I asked, ''How can Lloyd Evans testify as a former elder on the child abuse cases against the Jehovah Witnesses not negate his activism, while he admits to taking a trip to Thailand to visit prostitutes?
Two former Jehovah’s Witness elders have called for mandatory reporting of child sexual abuse, saying the organisation believes it is “answerable only to God”.
Duncan Corbett, who was an elder for 18 years, told the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse that the protection of minors and the handling of abuse claims must be taken out of the church’s hands. “Let them deal with the sin and the authorities handle the crime,” he told a hearing in London.
Lloyd Evans, another former elder who now campaigns against religious fundamentalism, said: “This is a group that feels they are answerable only to God … They don’t feel as though they need to yield to any regulations that are imposed on them.”
